(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[NZ]SZ[19]KM[8.00]TM[5400]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
GN[North American Ing Masters Round 2 Board 8 - 2009 US Go Congress - Huiren Yang (1p) vs Yongfei Ge (7d)]PW[Huiren Yang]PB[Yongfei Ge]WR[1p]BR[7d]DT[2009-08-03]EV[North American Ing Masters]RO[2]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Chris Burg]RE[B+1.00]
;B[dp]
;W[pq]
;B[dc]
;W[pc]
;B[pe]
;W[ce]C[USGO7 [-\]: Both players have gotten up from the table.
USGO7 [-\]: Huiren has returned, but Yongfei is still absent.
USGO7 [-\]: Yongfei has returned
]
;B[ch]
;W[qe]
;B[pd]
;W[qd]
;B[oc]
;W[qf]
;B[pb]
;W[qc]
;B[jd]
;W[fe]
;B[gc]
;W[cc]
;B[cb]
;W[dd]C[shoutan [?\]: USGo7, do you know if Juyong vs Richard liang is broadcasting?
shoutan [?\]: it looks like USGO8 is showing another game
]
;B[ec]
;W[bc]
;B[cn]
;W[jp]
;B[po]C[USGO7 [-\]: Sorry about that, we lost connection temporarily
USGO7 [-\]: I believe that tonight that game is not being broadcast.
KoCrazy [1k?\]: oh no
shoutan [?\]: I see. 
]
;W[qm]
;B[qq]
;W[qr]
;B[qp]
;W[or]
;B[on]C[USGO7 [-\]: Yongfei has gotten up from the board again and left the room while Huiren thinks.
USGO7 [-\]: Now he returns again
]
;W[np]
;B[pl]
;W[qk]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[pm]
;W[fq]
;B[nd]
;W[pi]
;B[rm]
;W[dr]C[USGO7 [-\]: He's bouncing his leg periodically as he thinks, producing quiet squeaks from his shoe.
]
;B[ip]
;W[cq]
;B[jq]
;W[kq]C[fairgo1 [1k\]: lol
]
;B[eq]
;W[er]
;B[jo]
;W[kp]
;B[fp]
;W[gq]
;B[gp]
;W[eh]
;B[dj]C[lokki [3d\]: huiren yang was hoang in kgs ?
]
;W[ej]
;B[ek]
;W[fj]
;B[di]
;W[fk]
;B[el]C[xedover [5k?\]: no
iaznab [-\]: was Hyang, yes
xedover [5k?\]: yes, one of his
]
;W[ld]
;B[ke]
;W[me]
;B[md]
;W[le]
;B[lc]
;W[kf]
;B[kd]
;W[jf]
;B[pf]
;W[pg]
;B[og]
;W[mg]C[Brian90 [12k\]: o 14
]
;B[qb]
;W[rb]
;B[ra]
;W[sb]C[USGO7 [-\]: I've been informed that Somerville was another of Huiren Yang's KGS accounts, in addition to HYang.
]
;B[qj]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: he has over 10 accounts
USGO7 [-\]: Huiren sighs and shakes his head
]
;W[rj]
;B[pk]C[USGO7 [-\]: More head shaking
]
;W[qi]
;B[rk]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]C[Brian90 [12k\]: such yang energy is bad when playing Go
]
;W[id]
;B[ic]
;W[mc]
;B[kc]C[KoCrazy [1k?\]: k10
lokki [3d\]: l9 better imo
Brian90 [12k\]: how come kgs boards don't actually have an I column
]
;W[bo]
;B[bn]
;W[co]
;B[do]C[USGO7 [-\]: Apologies for the connection interruptions.
USGO7 [-\]: Yongfei checks his opponent's clock and then leaves the room.
xedover [5k?\]: brian90, its not just KGS... google it for more info, its interesting
Brian90 [12k\]: what phrase do you suggest googling?
USGO7 [-\]: Now Huiren joined Yongfei in tapping his foot.
]
;W[jk]C[Brian90 [12k\]: let Chuban begin
]
;B[df]
;W[bb]
;B[ff]
;W[gf]
;B[fg]C[USGO7 [-\]: Huiren leans in very close to the board as he reads
]
;W[gg]
;B[fh]
;W[gh]
;B[lk]
;W[fl]
;B[ao]
;W[bp]
;B[hq]
;W[em]
;B[dm]
;W[en]
;B[dn]C[USGO7 [-\]: Yongfei again checks his opponent's time and leaves the room.
USGO7 [-\]: Yongfei has returned now.  He has 57 minutes of main time remaining.  Huiren has 15 minutes left.
]
;W[lj]
;B[mj]
;W[kj]
;B[mi]
;W[rq]
;B[rp]
;W[rr]
;B[hr]
;W[fs]
;B[gs]
;W[fr]
;B[jr]
;W[kr]
;B[ri]
;W[rh]
;B[sj]
;W[bg]
;B[bh]C[ketchup [2k\]: soon k7?
ketchup [2k\]: or l7
]
;W[dg]C[Brian90 [12k\]: c 13
]
;B[ef]
;W[cg]C[amego [3k\]: oops
amego [3k\]: f12 lost/
]
;B[fi]
;W[gi]C[Brian90 [12k\]: b is gambling
Brian90 [12k\]: I would have let him into the center
]
;B[sh]C[Brian90 [12k\]: why is b playing an endgame move?
Meepy [-\]: why? e16 connects
]
;W[rg]C[Brian90 [12k\]: e 15 disrupts connection
]
;B[lh]
;W[jh]C[Brian90 [12k\]: L8
Brian90 [12k\]: or I/k 7
]
;B[hm]C[USGO7 [-\]: Yongfei gets up for some water.
]
;W[gn]
;B[kl]
;W[jl]
;B[hn]
;W[oh]C[ketchup [2k\]: n5?
]
;B[hk]
;W[hj]C[ketchup [2k\]: e11 getting too big..
]
;B[ko]
;W[lo]C[salvor7 [2k\]: e11 doesn't cut black off
]
;B[ln]
;W[mo]
;B[ks]
;W[ls]
;B[js]
;W[mr]C[amego [3k\]: how so/
amego [3k\]: ?
salvor7 [2k\]: Be16 sequence seems to connect black 
amego [3k\]: Seems?
salvor7 [2k\]: I'm not 9d, maybe there is a ko somewhere in there :)
amego [3k\]: i am curious both are ignoring it
salvor7 [2k\]: well, it is connected.  wF16 will probably get B311
salvor7 [2k\]: if it wasn't connected, it would have been saved or killed long ago
]
;B[mn]
;W[ah]
;B[ai]
;W[ag]C[amego [3k\]: ok i see now
amego [3k\]: its connected
]
;B[bj]
;W[ei]
;B[ed]C[salvor7 [2k\]: tada
]
;W[db]
;B[eb]
;W[ca]
;B[op]
;W[no]
;B[oq]
;W[nq]
;B[of]
;W[oj]
;B[ok]
;W[ea]
;B[fb]
;W[sp]
;B[so]
;W[sq]
;B[ro]C[USGO7 [-\]: Huiren has entered byo yomi
]
;W[km]
;B[lm]
;W[jm]
;B[de]
;W[cd]
;B[nj]
;W[ap]
;B[an]
;W[dh]
;B[dk]
;W[ne]C[ketchup [2k\]: wow too close a game for me to count, komi is 7.5 right?
]
;B[gm]
;W[fm]
;B[cp]
;W[br]C[amego [3k\]: i think b is ahead
salvor7 [2k\]: same
lefty1154 [12k\]: komi is 8
amego [3k\]: amature beating a pro/
salvor7 [2k\]: apparently
lefty1154 [12k\]: crazy ing rules
salvor7 [2k\]: happens all the time
USGO7 [-\]: Technically komi is 8 and black wins ties instead of white, but the result is equivalent to if komi were simply 7.5 I believe
lefty1154 [12k\]: yes, crazy ing rules :-)
amego [3k\]: of cours he is a low rank pro
]
;B[ik]
;W[ij]
;B[gk]C[lefty1154 [12k\]: they always have to say the simplest rule in the most confusing way possible
ketchup [2k\]: i get b ahead by only 1-2 points..
ketchup [2k\]: too close for me to count accurately..
]
;W[kk]
;B[ll]C[ketchup [2k\]: white should start p16 soon
amego [3k\]: is nt g7 a dummy?
]
;W[gr]
;B[hs]C[amego [3k\]: waste of a move
ketchup [2k\]: or is it o17? hmm
amego [3k\]: i mean g9
ketchup [2k\]: not waste move... believe white has a point there
ketchup [2k\]: so black destroys it
amego [3k\]: yes
ketchup [2k\]: o6
ketchup [2k\]: hmm still winnable by white i think
salvor7 [2k\]: it is relating to c14
]
;W[in]
;B[io]
;W[go]
;B[ho]C[amego [3k\]: now w has sente
]
;W[nn]
;B[nm]C[amego [3k\]: g99 gave w that
]
;W[fd]
;B[ee]
;W[je]
;B[gd]
;W[ge]
;B[eo]
;W[fn]
;B[cf]
;W[bf]
;B[fa]
;W[da]C[ketchup [2k\]: o13
ketchup [2k\]: o13 means black wins i think..
ketchup [2k\]: solidly
leger [1d\]: l12 ?
]
;B[pp]
;W[pr]C[leger [1d\]: d3  maybe
Ashily [10k\]: L12
]
;B[sg]
;W[sf]
;B[si]C[leger [1d\]: so many miai, all moves from now on are worth pretty much the same
leger [1d\]: did anyone count precisely ?
Ashily [10k\]: so close
salvor7 [2k\]: I'm counting to within 2 for white
]
;W[lg]C[amego [3k\]: its very close noiw
]
;B[kh]
;W[kg]
;B[ki]
;W[ji]C[ketchup [2k\]: hmm did i miscount then?
]
;B[nf]
;W[mf]
;B[od]
;W[qa]
;B[pa]C[amego [3k\]: w has super yose
]
;W[mh]
;B[li]
;W[ni]C[ketchup [2k\]: seems like it...
]
;B[pj]C[USGO7 [-\]: Huiren made an unhappy noise when Yongfei played this move.
amego [3k\]: i think g9 gave up the sente
]
;W[oi]
;B[ng]
;W[nh]C[Ashily [10k\]: d3
leger [1d\]: i think ge yongfei wins
leger [1d\]: .5
amego [3k\]: n18 still needed
leger [1d\]: SE doesn't agree with me
ketchup [2k\]: SE does not work for this ruleset
ketchup [2k\]: i think i get w+2 or 3 now..
]
;B[nb]
;W[dq]C[salvor7 [2k\]: I now agree with leger
leger [1d\]: w+1
salvor7 [2k\]: lol
leger [1d\]: i was wrong
leger [1d\]: i didn't see black had to defend o18
amego [3k\]: b lost it in yose
ikea [2d\]: worst way to lose
salvor7 [2k\]: nah, most common way, so it must be the best way
amego [3k\]: so pro still better
]
;B[im]
;W[jn]
;B[il]C[lonsan [1k\]: gyf has beaten many pros, very strong player
Ashily [10k\]: G8
salvor7 [2k\]: quite
]
;W[gl]
;B[fc]C[Meepy [-\]: looks like a .5 game to me
Ashily [10k\]: L6
leger [1d\]: ko for the win
BadDuke [4k\]: Ko for it?
croc [4d\]: 7.5 komi?
salvor7 [2k\]: yes
salvor7 [2k\]: basically
leger [1d\]: yeah, ko is win or lose here
]
;W[gj]C[croc [4d\]: in 1st US-Canada match
leger [1d\]: g10 e4 , black wins i think
croc [4d\]: ge lost by 0.5 to HuiRen, also 7.5 komi
leger [1d\]: oh woops
leger [1d\]: i'm wrong again
lonsan [1k\]: was that last year, croc?
jSd [8k\]: no
jSd [8k\]: its 8
croc [4d\]: 2007
ketchup [2k\]: yes last year
leger [1d\]: .5 game, fun anyway
ketchup [2k\]: i thought first us-canada team match was last year?
asdfsd: w win 4.5
asdfsd: no
asdfsd: sorry
]
;B[ep]C[salvor7 [2k\]: lol, much closer than that
]
;W[jj]
;B[kn]C[asdfsd: .5
leger [1d\]: oh i get it
]
;W[rc]C[ketchup [2k\]: n18 is needed also?
amego [3k\]: no
Meepy [-\]: doesn't seem to
salvor7 [2k\]: o18 kills lib on those potential cutting stones
]
;B[qa]C[tito1 [2k\]: b miss d4 loss bye 1 point
]
;W[fo]
;B[hl]
;W[eg]
;B[oo]
;W[oe]C[tito1 [2k\]: if no he could win bye 1 point
amego [3k\]: i said g9 lost it for b
]
;B[sa]C[salvor7 [2k\]: it was sente though
amego [3k\]: no
salvor7 [2k\]: how could that lose it
Fakemchow [5d?\]: B + 0.5
leger [1d\]: o19 
lonsan [1k\]: yes i think so too fake
BadDuke [4k\]: I thought w +0.5
ketchup [2k\]: geh, this game too tough to count
lonsan [1k\]: aga rules
lonsan [1k\]: t19 worth one point
jSd [8k\]: komi is 8
jSd [8k\]: noobs
leger [1d\]: i think i see a tesuji here, o19
lefty1154 [12k\]: lol "noobs"
ketchup [2k\]: doesnt seem to work
lonsan [1k\]: 8 but equivalent to 7.5 under other rulesets
lefty1154 [12k\]: :-D
Vash3G [-\]: this is using Ing rules
ketchup [2k\]: o19 that is
umone [5k\]: jigo
derp [1k\]: o19, n19, think is okay
lonsan [1k\]: o19 n19?
salvor7 [2k\]: ya, t19 is one point, wowzers
leger [1d\]: o19 n19 n18 
leger [1d\]: bang
DRhazar [1d\]: p19
derp [1k\]: then take
ketchup [2k\]: liberty problem
lefty1154 [12k\]: bing blang blaow
leger [1d\]: i clone
BadDuke [4k\]: White have to play last?
Vash3G [-\]: nope, thats AGA rules
BadDuke [4k\]: This not AGA event?
leger [1d\]: ketchup, please come to clone
lefty1154 [12k\]: ing
ketchup [2k\]: this is ing
Vash3G [-\]: this is the North American Ing Masters
Vash3G [-\]: this is using Ing rules
USGO7 [-\]: Result is B+ 1
croc [4d\]: wow
WonderGoma [4k?\]: thanks
asdfsd: w can play n18
salvor7 [2k\]: thx
salvor7 [2k\]: sure doesn't do anything
])
